Jon Moxley is aware of followers are enthusiastic about the opportunity of a wrestling struggle, about AEW probably going head-to-head with WWE. That is all effectively and good, he stated. But it surely has little or no to do with why he, the previous Dean Ambrose, departed WWE on Could 1 when his contract was up.
In an open, emotional interview on Chris Jericho’s Discuss is Jericho podcast that revealed Wednesday, Moxley mentioned a variety of issues concerning his time with WWE, his unhappiness with its inventive course of and his relationship with Vince McMahon.
One of many issues he wished to clarify? Moxley stated he was gone from WWE no matter whether or not there was one other firm round with an impending primetime TV cope with TNT.
“My leaving WWE exists outdoors of that,” Moxley stated. “Whether or not AEW exists or not, I used to be nonetheless leaving WWE. It was good to know the wrestling enterprise was doing so effectively outdoors of WWE, however even when it wasn’t, I nonetheless would have left. If there was no different promotions to work for on the earth, I nonetheless would have left WWE. If there have been no different wrestlers, I’d have simply began my very own promotion, began my very own coaching faculty and educated my very own opponents. I’d have re-seeded the wrestling enterprise from scratch if I needed to. However the timing of it’s simply so loopy.”
Moxley, who’s now signed to a written contract with AEW, stated he turned an grownup in WWE and is grateful for his eight years there, however the promotion’s inventive course of wore on him a lot that he turned depressed and acquired “bodily sick” each present, a lot in order that he was looking out on WebMD what could be unsuitable with him. He stated he advised WWE chairman and CEO Vince McMahon as a lot when he knowledgeable McMahon he can be departing earlier this 12 months.
“I do not care what number of zeroes you wish to placed on a bit of paper, I’m gone.”
Jon Moxley on his WWE supply
“If there’s one factor I wish to do [now], I wish to show that your inventive course of — the WWE’s inventive course of, sucks,” Moxley stated to Jericho. “It doesn’t work. It is completely horrible. … It is killing the corporate and I believe Vince is the issue. Not a lot Vince, however Vince and no matter construction he began constructing round himself.”
Moxley stated that inventive course of did not present the liberty to develop his character. It did not supply him the leeway to say what he wished in on-screen promos.
“Promos was my favourite a part of wrestling,” Moxley stated. “I liked it. They ended up changing into my least favourite half, the half I dread. As a result of now it is not me arising with concepts and arising with methods to hook you into our story. It is me attempting to not appear to be an fool. Me attempting to appease all these individuals. Me sitting down with a author, that is not the way it’s imagined to be.”
Moxley stated he was fed “goofy s—” to say and do by writers and McMahon and he grew uninterested in it. He recollected a number of tales about how he was embarrassed to say what was within the script, together with one specific line a few pooper scooper. Moxley stated when he returned from harm in August 2018 he felt like nothing they wrote for him made sense, the story was unclear and nobody was “getting over” with the gang.
On the identical present because the pooper scooper line, which he was capable of get nixed, Moxley stated McMahon wished him to convey up the real-life leukemia prognosis of Roman Reigns in a promo. Moxley stated he tried to persuade McMahon in any other case, however the line stayed in and he stated it.
“As quickly as that line left my mouth, I used to be like, ‘Oh my god, I am unable to imagine I simply stated that,'” Moxley stated.
A couple of weeks after that, there was one other line written for him about Reigns’ leukemia and Moxley stated he put his foot down with McMahon and stated he wouldn’t utter it.
“It’s the worst line,” Moxley stated. “I am not even gonna say it on [this podcast], that is how dangerous it was. It was a factor the place someone would have needed to get fired — possibly me. They may have misplaced sponsors.”
When Dean Ambrose returned from harm, he feuded with Seth Rollins in a storyline that creatively he did not agree with. Courtesy of WWE
Moxley stated he knew in July 2018, earlier than he got here again from harm, that he would seemingly be leaving WWE when his contract was up. Whereas he was rehabbing from accidents, Moxley stated he was watching numerous live shows whereas driving a stationary bike, seeing nice performers join with the gang the best way they wished and realizing he hadn’t been in a position to try this in a very long time. Moxley stated he was depressed throughout his time in WWE, as a result of he could not carry out on that stage; he was advised to learn scripts verbatim.
“They take away the factor that you simply love,” Moxley stated.
The ultimate straw, Moxley stated, was a section the place he was imagined to get a rabies shot with a large syringe throughout a promo. His heel character on the time was imagined to be repelled by the “disgusting, disease-riddled fanbase.” McMahon thought the concept was nice, Moxley stated, however Moxley hated it, calling it “embarrassing.” He stated he advised McMahon, like he had performed beforehand, that if that is what McMahon needs on his present, he’d be the person for the job. Moxley stated he remembered considering which may have been the final time he would have that dialog with McMahon.
“For no matter cause, we’re like Mentos and Food plan Coke,” Moxley stated. “Me and Vince collectively, we simply create this explosion of goofy nonsense that I detest.”
When he was supplied a brand new contract by WWE, Moxley stated he did not even have a look at it. He stated he has no concept how a lot cash was supplied to him.
“I do not care what number of zeroes you wish to placed on a bit of paper, I’m gone,” Moxley stated he advised WWE. “[McMahon has] acquired the Million Greenback Man advanced. He is acquired to have the ability to purchase every little thing. That is why he pays Brock [Lesnar] billions of to return in and wreck his firm. As a result of he needs to personal Brock. He needs to be like, ‘Ahh, Brock is my attraction.'”
Moxley made his shock debut with AEW final Saturday evening on the promotion’s debut present, Double or Nothing, at MGM Grand Backyard Enviornment in Las Vegas. He got here out after the primary occasion between Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho and appeared to arrange a program with Omega, considered one of AEW’s prime guys and the previous IWGP heavyweight champion in New Japan Professional-Wrestling.
Moxley, whose actual identify is Jonathan Good, has been booked on future AEW exhibits and also will be taking worldwide and impartial wrestling dates, which is permitted by his AEW contract. He’ll debut for New Japan subsequent week. When AEW’s TV present begins in October, Moxley is predicted to be a serious a part of it.
Moxley stated he now feels a way of freedom, “like the load of the world has been lifted off my shoulders.” He’ll work largely for AEW, however take bookings and do various things of his selecting. When he was rehabbing from harm, Moxley stated he thought extra about going again to wrestle together with his previous indie Fight Zone Wrestling or in Japan, somewhat than return to WWE. In essence, he’ll be capable of do this now.
With AEW, Moxley stated he has all the time been shut pals with Cody Rhodes, the previous WWE performer who’s now an AEW government vp. Moxley stated he linked effectively with AEW president Tony Khan, who Moxley stated was extra of a wrestling fan than McMahon. Moxley stated he by no means even talked cash with AEW, as a result of he “vibed” with them on every little thing else.
“Nothing I do [now] is motivated by cash,” Moxley stated. “All the pieces I do, whether or not it is a present I do, a wrestling present I do, a match I’ve — something I do, any challenge that I am concerned in, I am chasing and directed by ardour, creativity, creative satisfaction and enjoyable. That is what I am chasing. And I believe the rewards, be they financial or in any other case, will come.”